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Let me  propose the "captain nemo float out" it is basicly building a "better yacht" that can stay in open ocean for long periods of time.

Yachts can not stay in open ocean for long periods of time as the wave action makes staying there quite uncomfortable.

Yachts are also built from materials that impose "light building" as principal design feature. This goes bad with basic seasteading needs like big tank volumes and store of big amounts of goods like food, spare parts, tools, fuel, water and similar.

In general a yacht is built for living in a marina and make short trips of no more than a few days crossing open water in favorable weather conditions.

We propose (and already tested) a vehicle that is the technical equivlent of a whale. A very heavy almost completly submerged body wandering worldwide at a speed of 7 knots with incredible low energy needs, capeable to live on resouces and opportunities that come up seasonally at thousands of miles distance.

This vehicle would be about "apartment size" hold a adequate living space for a single family be equally comfortable in harbor or at open sea, avoiding wave movements by cruising most of the time in snorkel mode. It would provide "leave coffee cup on the table comfort" even in the worst imaginable sea conditions.

It would be the "workhorse" of a new generation of ocean explorers and settlers who engage in activities like open water pod fishfarming, tuna rearing, wreck salvage, scuba tourism, mineral explotation, scientific data collection, tourism and similar.

This workhorse would be almost completly independent of  infrastructure.

 

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1000m depth rating possible for spheres, 500m for tubular concrete structures

...the (study) results demonstrated the feasibility of near neutrally buoyant concrete structures, having an overall safety factor of three, at depths to 3000 feet for spheres and 1500 feet for cylinders. Greater depths are possible if concretes having a compressive strenght greater than 10.000 psi are used or if negativly buoyant structures are designed.

H.H Haynes and R.D. Rail october 1986 first published sept.1976

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It would allow to have a lifestyle that is somewhere halfway between a yachtie, the Moken, and Captain Nemo. It allows to participate in existing yachting ambients, use existing harbor and boating infrastructure when available. But on the long run it would work best as mobile  complement of oceanic cities as proposed by seasteading.

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Business Tycoons like Roman Abramovich show the way – they run global business empires from a yacht as headquarter making their operations country independent, interference independent, free of ruling, taxing, and redtaping of any regulation entity on the planet.

As Peter Thiel puts it: “…In our time, the great task for libertarians is to find an escape from politics in all its forms…” – Peter Thiel

…there are no truly free places left in our world…” – Peter Thiel

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian

“...Politics is about interfering with other people’s lives without their consent...” – Peter Thiel

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/05/01/peter-thiel/suffrage-isnt-danger-other-rights-are

 

 

Going oceanic like Captain Nemo is the ultimate tool to asure interference freedom for an individual. Doing Business worldwide, staying outside of “jurisdiction” of anybody all the time. Moving from opportunity to opportunity on planetary scale. Mobilis in Mobili. (Captain Nemo’s Motto). From sea you can approch any important city on the planet and ask your local partners to take a 5 minute tender for a meeting in your floating headquarters.

Eventually all business ventures and business leaders will go for “interference freedom” and discover “going oceanic” as the best and most feasible solution available.

You are here: http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t43942461/the-captain-nemo-float-out-seasteading/

Read the Seasteading.org thread about floating business headquarters here:  http://www.seasteading.org/forum-list/topic/floating-business-headquaters-for-global-business-networks/

 

The four reasons why going oceanic is the next big thing to come in business:

  • The quest for interference freedom
  • The quest for mobility
  • The quest for oceanic resouces
  • The quest for space

 

Read more here: why going oceanic is next big thing to come in business

Who is doing it , who is planning it, who is already there... "ocean business development key player network"

 

Offshoring the megatrend of the century

We live in a world where half of all money is offshore already, tycoons like Abramovic and Branson are "offshoring" their private life and tax declarations, Google is offshoring data centers to get rid of state interference in their business, it can be easyly predicted that at the end all buisness all money all data, will be taken out of interference of politics and states and in one form or another be "offshored".

The final point of the "offshoring movement" is Captain Nemo, doing business worldwide from a yacht that governments and other interferers could not even spot and interfere if they wanted. Eclipse is still visible to everybody every time it goes for a port, it can still be boarded it can still be grounded by authorities in a port. Nautilus is already out of this dilemma - it can not be spotted, it can not be boarded, it can not be grounded in any reasonably possible and feasible operation. It converts the personal living space bubble of a individual into something that is private and off radar in the same way as a numbered offshore account gets money "off radar" and invisible.

The whole idea of offshoring has many times been discredited as a "safe haven for criminal activity" - but this is mere negative propaganda of the proponents of the nanny and big brother state. Privacy is a basic right and going off radar is just implementing your rights in the real world. It is not even new - the people who went to the new world as pioneers "offshored" their religion and business from interference in Europe. Today there is no land left to do that - for going off radar you best go oceanic technology makes it feasible.

Read more here: why going oceanic is next big thing to come in business

 

 

Thread (not much info lot of sidetracking) about the captain nemo float out at seasteading.org here 

 

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The technology is there.

 

Submarine yacht  prototype 10 x 2,4 m / 20 tons built in Austira Tirol 1994 by Wilfried Ellmer -  tested and dived for many years in a ongoing long term experiment 20 years in the water - no hull maintenace required.

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This is a Submarine Yacht of 20m x 4,6m / 200 tons Navtech Shipyard Cartagena Colombia - builder Wilfried Ellmer - a upgrade of the prototype above, same hull geometry volum increase factor 10. Room and space equivalent of a 68 squaremeter city apartment, capeable of ocean crossing voyages in complete comfort.

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see more about the project here

You can say: "building the nautilus?" - have been there have done that. - What we are looking for now is a further upgrade to something like designer fantasy Migaloo for a real world owner in a real world project.

 

 

 

Ocean colonization and Captain Nemo lifstyle are to becoming a reality. We have built up and tested the technology to make it happen.

 

Land space is locked - oceanic space if free, mobilis in mobili - read more:

http://www.seasteading.org/forum-list/topic/landspace-is-locked-oceanic-space-is-free/

 

Why global sustainability requires rocket fast technological progress - read more:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t58921987/sustainability-population-growth-consumption-growth-ocean-co/

 

Captain Nemo worldwide mobile subdue to nobody - read more:

http://www.seasteading.org/forum-list/topic/marine-business-will-lead-to-seasteading/page/8/#post-24163



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"...In our time, the great task for libertarians is to find an escape from politics in all its forms..." - Peter Thiel

"...there are no truly free places left in our world..." - Peter Thiel

 

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian

 

"Politics is about interfering with other people’s lives without their consent." - Peter Thiel

 

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/05/01/peter-thiel/suffrage-isnt-danger-other-rights-are

 

Going Captain Nemo is the ultimate tool to asure interference freedom for an individual. Doing Business worldwide, staying outside of "jurisdiction" of anybody all the time. Moving from opportunity to opportunity on planetary scale. Mobilis in Mobili. You can approach any important business center on the planet from the sea without crossing any border and apply to anybodies "visa requirements".

 

 

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Captain Nemo could also be in the business of oceanic fish farming taming the blue frontier

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I like the idea how deep you must submerge in a storm to be protected from wave damage?

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Ocean Colonization Concepts: / Lens shell pictures overview / / Ramform floating home pictures / / c-shell floating home pictures / / Floating concrete building methods / / shell cluster pictures / / investor proposal list /



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When talking about protection from wave damage we should have clear that one thing is being protected from wave hazard and sea sickening movements what happens inmediatly when you are submerged - and the other thing is how deep in the ocean you might notice the pass of big waves.

Wave hazards come from 2 factors:

1) breaking crests that can hit a structure with hundreds of tons of force

2) Hog and Sag, bending and torsion, forces which appear when a ship is supported by water (and bouyancy) at one end and in the air at the other end. Those forces can break a ship or lead to fatigue. They make a ship stamp and roll.

If you leave the math and wave amplitude thing apart, you can easyly understand that neither wave crests nor hog and sag can exist anymore as soon as you have a thin water layer closing above you, even when this layer is just a foot deep. The structure will be supported uniformly by water at its whole length and this uniform support leads inmediatly to a much calmer behavior.

This is what a diver experiences when he jumps from a rocking surface boat  - there is inmediatly this incredible calm uniformly supported floating status when you go below the surface it dos not  start gradually dozends of meters down - it is just below the surface. No wave is HITTING you anymore no wave is pushing you and your equpment around as it is the case when you swim on the surface. The only thing you experience below is a kind of current that changes direction with every wave. So you can "percieve the wave movement" when you have a visual reference to the sea bottom. If you don`t have this visual reference you will not notice the movement.

I know a lot of divers that are suceptible to seasickness in a rolling diveboat and they are always the first to jump overboard - once you are below seasickness is gone.

I experienced this in extreme form at Malpelo Island which is a island in the pacific 500 km off the coast of Colombia between Cocos and Galapagos - you have those real big pacific waves comming in directly towards a volcanic rock face. There is no doubt that any ship no matter the thickness of its steel plating would be hacked to small pieces within minutes. The divers jump overboard far from the rocks and swimm below the surface directly towards this rockfaces - this is where all those beautiful fishes are. You hang there 1-2m below the "hackzone" relaxed enjoy the smooth waiven of the waves comming in, you can feel the real big suckers in your ears, as the waterdepth changes while the crest goes trough. It is a wonderful place to mediate about the fact why nature never developed a surface swimming animal for the open sea - maybe living below is just so much better.

The other experience i can contribute is the experience i had with the submarine yacht prototype - while i had the sub on its anchorplace and was tooling around inside i closed the hatch to avoid questions from courious visitors - i was there for an hour or so and when i opened the hatch i noticed that a storm had come up, several trees felt down, sailing yachts in the 30 foot range where calling SOS, and the local rescue crew was busy to assist. - I did not even notice the storm. And the hull was still on the surface exposing the sail (tower) and the central rounded part of the hull a bit above the surface. Obviously this did not present enough wave and weather attack surface to make the hull rock and roll.

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Structural weakness of a whale body no stifness required as supported by buoyancy

The difference between being hit by the waves on the surface and being supported completly by liquid is paramount - this is why whales have structural weak bodies compared to a ship, they can live with a lot less structure.

Modern shipbuilding is including ballast tanks into the design to deepload the vessel when necessary to avoid excessive bending in the violent surface layer and get a more uniform hull support.

The question how deep is deep enough is most of all a practical question -  i would say a few feet is enough for leaving your coffee cup on the table in 99% of the sea states you will experience, 10m will be enough for leaving the coffee cup on the table in the perfect storm. What means that there is no need to go beyond a depth where a decent snorkel is still possible.

I know that there are people theroizizing that big waves reach deep down in the ocean - the point is theirs hazardous and seasickening action depends on intermittent air/iquid contacts with the hull  - and those are gone inmediatly below the surface. What is left below is waiven that does no harm and no seasickness - any diver can tell you that.

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What are the propulsion energy requirements for such a concept ?

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No long distance surface swimming animal exists because this is not energy efficient. Even whales which need the surface for breathing (because they started as a surface animal similar to a nutria -ambulocetus-) swim now below surface - why ? because they cruise up to 12,000 miles each year and nature shapes all animals to be energy efficient. Here we are - if you are looking for a model for a energy efficient ocean crossing submarine yacht take this. A 200 ton whale with a length of 30m (cut some of the tail section for hydrodynamic efficient length - take some 25m) can come up to a speed of 30 knots and has been measured at those speeds. Biologists and Physiologists estimate its maximum power output at 400 horsepower. Whales are mammals so their energy physiology is similar to other mammals. Which means there is a big gap between the energy output you can get from the organism in a emergency situation for a few minutes of fast swim and the energy output you can get 24 hours a day. The most educated guess on that is a factor 10 you can run very fast for 1 minute but if you wander 24 hours a day you have to do it at a slower rithm. This means what you have on a whale tail 24 hours a day during wandering is maybe 40 horsepower possibly less. If you take into account that whales do not feed which means do not re-fuel 6-8 months during wandering - how is this possible ? - only if they use VERY VERY little energy for swimming over VERY VERY long distances. What is the efficient speed range ? Smaller whales cruise at some 3 knots bigger whales at up to 6 knots. Taking a stream speed of 3 knots in your favor as ben franklin did in its 30 day Golf Stream drift dive - you could have a whale economic ocean crossing at 9knots over ground in a submarine yacht - not bad ! Having this in mind i took my prototype concrete submarine to water back in 1996 it was whale shaped had 20 tons like a small whale and my most important question was not top speed with a big engine - this is quite clear anyhow - my question was the limbo - how low can you go... so what i did first was installing a ridiculously small electric engine of 200W into the sub and pushed the switch. - What happened? First nothing then after a couple of seconds the hull took up speed and kept taking up speed until it reached a speed of what would be in the range of a whale efficient cruising speed - some 3 knots. So i never came to the point to install the big combustion engine i had in mind in first place - it was not necessary. I later put a small generator in to reload the small battery pack and extend the range - that was all. In all my submarine yachting years i never saw a situation i would have had a need for a bigger engine. This ridiculously small engine pushed me trough storms had no problem to get nose into the wind... So i am well aware what engine size is recommended for surface yachts - BUT - based on my own experience i would be concerned that such a engine would have a short life in a yacht submarine yacht because it has to run all the time in under load during cruising . I also have no problem if somebody wants a 400hp engine in a 200 ton submarine yacht to run all the time at whale emergency speed of 30 knots - you could water ski behind it...
My personal preference is doing it like those gentle giants - cruise oceans energy efficient at moderate speed.

When you plan an engine for a submarine yacht you should forget anything that is recommended for surface yachts and come back to the basics. Fortunately there exists a fine model made by mother nature that has about the size of a submarine yacht and travels long distance as a submarine yacht is supposed to do - Whales! A streamlined body such as a whale can travel over long distances with incredibly low energy use. Studies suggest that a whale uses 5 times less energy for swimming under surface than swimming on surface where additional drag from wave resistance comes up. A graywhale of 18 tons displacement has 3000 kg (14 kg of fuel/day) to travel 20.000km (95km/day) in this journey he has about 589g/hour of fuel available for life support and locomotion. To simulate the locomotion model of gray whale a submarine yacht of the size of my prototype (20tons) is well equipped with a diesel of 1-3 horsepower. This fits well with my own field data that suggest that a small electric engine of just 200W can move a submarine yacht hull of 20 tons under all weather conditions. Such a submarine yacht is able to go 95km per day with 14kg fuel use per day - the problem is you might not find a diesel small enough for this.

....right whales are slow swimmers, rarely exceeding 5 knots, with an average speed of only 2 knots. Gray whales are also not too fast, clocking a maximum speed of only 6.5 knots. Humpback whales do about 5 knots on average, but can put on bursts of 9-10 knots. Sperm whales are much faster, doing about 10 knots on average, and able to accelerate up to 20 knots or so if pushed, though only able to maintain this speed for a short period. Speeds of 14 -18 knots have been reported for the minke whale. The sei whale appears to be the fastest of the lot, able to achieve a sprint of about 32 knots, although again for only a short stretch. Some dolphin species can also go this fast, and are generally a lot faster than whales on average.

Energy efficency

hydrodynamic cost of swimming for a graywhale
muscle and digestive efficiencies of 25% (Gosline 1993) and 80% (Thomson and Martin 1986)

Models developed by (Bose and Lien 1989) for a fin whale

model for a typical gray whale (Sumich 1983) estimates the daily requirements for gray whale locomotion come close to 60 Mcal/day.

Gray whale if swimming near to surface encounter wave drag which can increase total drag by a factor of five (Hertel 1966)

It makes sense for whales to travel at depth greater than 3 times their body depth (Sumich 1983)

Metabolic rate from oxygen consumption Studies:
(sumich 1983, Wuersig et a. 1986, Wahrenbrock et.al.1974, Highsmith and Coyle 1992)

hydrodynamic models:
Bose and Lien 1989, Hui 1987,

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Bose N, Lien J (1989) Propulsion of a fin whale (Balaenoperta physalus): Why de fin whale is a fast swimmer. Proc R Soc Lond B 237:175-200
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Hertel H (1966) Structure, form and movement. Reinhold Publishing Corporation, New York.
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Hui CA (1987) Power and speed of swimming dolphins. J Mamm 68: 126-132
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Kleiber M (1975) The fire of life: An introduction to animal energetics. Robert E Krieger Publ Co., Huntington, New York.
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Pike GC (1962) Migration and feeding of the gray whale (Eschrichtius robustus). J Fish Res Bd Canada 19: 815-838
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Sumich Jl (1983) Swimming velocities, breathing patterns, and estimated costs of locomotion in migrating gray whales, Eschrichtius robustus. Can J Zool 61:647-652
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Wahrenbrock EA, Marushak GF, Elsner R, Kenney DW(1974) Respiration and metabolism in two baleen whale calves. Mar Fish Rev 36:3-9
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Blix, A.S. and Folkow, L.P.(1995) Daily energy expenditure in free living minke whales. Acta physiol. scand. 153, 61-66
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Hui (1987) estimated that dolphins energy bursts represent a 166-fold increase of the metabolism over resting rates.

Migrating gray whales have a minimum CT (cost of transportation) that occurs at the mean velocity of 2.0m/s (Sumich, 1983). The stored engery resevers allow a migration of 15.000-20.000km during which the whales fast.

Cost of locomotion estimated, based on Lockyer(1981) and an average swimming speed of 6.3km/h for gray whales (Perryman et al. 1999)

Total blubbermass used in migration in a 18000kg whale is 3000 kg available for six to seven months without feeding - while migrating 20.000 km

energy by respiration...
The estimated O2 consumption of about 150 l.min(-1) is in line with the general allometric regression for mammals and corresponds to an energetic expenditure of 85-95 kJ.kg(-1).day(-1).

( BLIX AS, FOLKOW LP. Acta Physiol Scand 1995;153(1):61-6.) Mink Whales
...We found that cost of swimming is remarkably low in these large animals and that their estimated daily energy expenditure on average only amounts to 80 kJ kg-1 day-1.

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Oceanic concepts shaped by mother nature.... no surface ocean traveling animal exists...

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To have a realistic perception of the propulsion for a oceanic sistem that operates submerged look at the propulsion of ocean fish farming cages the thruster setup size operation envelope. All this is VERY different to a surface ship or a military submarine.

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That would be a kind of living space capsule capeable to cruise in any ocean condition and sea state, with a extremly low propulsion requirement, how would the handling of such a boat be? - Would it need a special kind of seamenship?

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its not really hard-- you would do much the same as a surface yacht...there are a few other things you would learn--but-not much. I plan on using standard cameras and fish finders or mayube cheap off the shelf depth finders.. need a strobe at night on the mast...military sunmariners have always looked at surface vessels as inferior...and they truly are compared to the low power requirements of a below surface vessel. they dont cost any more than a surface yacht..

 

they handle well due the streamlined control surfaces and the shape.. and the almost weightlessness of the vessel...

 



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Here an idea as handling of a submarine yacht would be from wils website...

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It may be one out of hundred who really would like to live disconnected from the surface, producing oxigen from the seawater wandering submerged and separated from mankind trough the worlds oceans, captain nemo style.

The typical owner would handle a submersible living space bubble habitat (i avoid the word submarine due to the misleading coffin perception) as a simple yacht that is in almost all of its aspects a yacht, just absolute storm safe, seasickness free, burglar safe, and maintenance cost free.

Like other yachties you would not be the whole day enclosed inside your boat. You would form part of a yachtie community anchored in the bay of a caribbean island.

In the morning you would row over to the beach meet with people from the other boats, have a beach grill, a coconut, a island adventure - you would only return to your boat to have a pleaseant night sleep in a king size bed and a freshwater shower.

There are differences in lifestyle to other yachties. For example when you leave your boat in the morning (all of your family - nobody wants to stay and watch the family home) you just close the hatch - so your living space becomes absolute burglar safe.

The other yachties always live a bit preocupied about their boat, is somebody breaking in to steal your nav equipment?, is the weather on the anchorplace changing smashing the boat against the reef?, - so they tend to live "in sight" of the boat.

You on the other hand, when get an offer for this dream on week trip - take it - when you return you will find your stuff well protected inside your living space bubble - just exactly as you left it there - breaking in trough a hatch is like breaking into a banksafe - nobody can deploy the necessary (heavy industrial) tools on a anchorplace.

Another situation where your life is really different to a yachtie is when you are together with several sailing and motor yachts anchored in front of this pristine beach of a unhabitated island. Somebody has a radio and spreads the news that tropical cyclon Bertha category 4 is closing in. Now it becomes clear why this beautiful island was uninhabitated in first place - no save harbor miles around.

Some yachts rush out into the dark of the night to make it by the speed of their expensive engines to the next safe spot - just to find that it is cramped with poorly anchored industrial barges that tend to come loose in a storm and grind everything in their way to pieces.

Smaller yachts send the kids for the nearest hotel to be safe and go for the mangroves to bring out several lines to the trunks and fight it out. They can make it as long as the storm surge is moderate.

You on the other hand just close your hatch drink a coffee watch TV - no need to leave the anchor place. If things become bumpy flood your ballast tanks and lay your bubble some 5m down on the sandy lagoon bottom until the storm has passed over you. You and your family are safe as in a underground bunker.

You could take advantage of the **** weather and the sudden absence of all your yachtie friends and make a few miles to visit the next spot. You sail out directly into the storm - trim your living space bubble at snorkel depth - you leave the coffee cup on the table, you watch the weather the sea and ship traffic with your snorkel top camara - but your comfort is not affected by the storm.

Your live will also be a bit different when aproaching a cramped marina with no space for "another boat" - you will always be the "most exotic boat" that draws the attention and marina owners will love to asign you a nice place to stay - maybe for free. While it may be difficult to have privacy in a cramped marina on a surface boat - you close your hatch and you have it.

Your living space bubble will also be different in terms of aircon, comfort electrics, and loading capacity.

For example a yacht in the caribbean can spend dozends of dollars a day in aircon to make the climate below a sun heated deck just bearable. The seawater around your hull maintains the inside at 22 degee with no aircon need.

Yacht owners sometimes go crazy with the vibrations and noise of the small generator that keeps the battery and freezer alive. Noise dampening and vibration is most of all a function of bulkhead weight - bad news for "leight weight yacht outfitting" - you have your generator behind 20cm concrete - complete silence guaranteed.

Yachties are always short of loading capacity for freshwater food, tools, equipment.

You on the other hand have dozends of tons loading capacity this gives you not only the freedom of a much longer range compared with similar sized surface yachts - it also allows you to make a living as a trader - moving cold beer in hotel quantity to remote locations.

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The handling of a submarine yacht requires no "classic seamanship" it is as simple as pointing the bow in the direction you want to go - no special consideration of climate, wave conditions, the submarine ambient is a constant ambient with very little changes. It is like going in a business jet but without the pumps and airtraffic considerations.

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Using a submarine yacht could open a lifestyle similar to a business jet owner - you could travel worldwide, take your office and comfort with you. In fact the interior design of a submarine yacht would be in most aspects very similar to a big business jet as both vessels are basicly tubular pressure resistant structures.

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interior design in a tubular structure

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Elegant interior design in a tubular vessel.

 

The most important difference is in the cost of the vessel a submarine yacht is much more economic to build and maintain.

While business jets are limited to light panels, a submarine yacht interior design can also include heavy items like a jaccuzzi.



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Why global sustainability requires rocket fast technological progress:

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t58921987/sustainability-population-growth-consumption-growth-ocean-co/

 

Marine business will lead to Seasteading:

http://www.seasteading.org/forum-list/topic/marine-business-will-lead-to-seasteading/page/8/#post-24163

 



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A typical question that we get when talking about the captain nemo float out is : Where do i sit on deck and watch the sunset ?

This question shows that people imagine that just because your yacht is a submarine - you are confined to live submerged all the time.

The picture shows that the contrary is true. The deckspace of a submarine is as big - if not bigger - as a yacht of a similar size would have.

Our experience with the prototypes indicate that the crew will prefer to travel submerged (in snorkel mode) and keep the coffee cup on the table all the time. 

Traveling comfortable and steady with no interruption of work and comfort is not possible in small yachts - but it is possible with small submarines.

Nevertheless the "traditional seaman" who loves spray in the face and wind in the hair can still enyoy it - as an option of choice -  navigating on the surface in choppy seas.

 

 

 

 



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... running a diesel 24/7 is not cheap, even if it is the smallest diesel you can find. The beauty of a snorkel boat concept is in the fact that your diesel can be very small - much much smaller than anything that a surface ship of similar size could have.

In a surface ship the diesel needs to be strong enough to bring the bow into the wind during a storm. In a snorkel boat the diesel just has to overcome the windforce created by the sail area of the snorkel.

The diesel in a submarine yacht is ten times smaller, needs ten times less fuel. The high tank capcity is a option that you can take advantage of when you visit a country where diesel is incredible cheap - so you can get a year supply of fuel. You are in no obligation to fill this enourmous tank to start your journey.

If you are low budget you might use your diesel only the first day to engage the golf stream in Florida then shut it down and opt for a pure drift dive ocean crossing as Ben Franklin (see log Benjamin Franklin drift dive) did - and start your diesel again at the end of the voyage when England comes in sight some 45 days later. The total diesel use for crossing the Atlantic would be a few liters.

Other than the Ben Franklin which was assisted by a surface ship to catch the golfsteam - a whale shaped boat with a small diesel can take the trip into the stream with no assitance.

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The crew of the Ben Franklin was the first to stay in open ocean in a small boat without beeing afected by waves and seea sickness - this leads to the submerged living bubble concept as first choice for colonizing the open oceans with small scale structures.

The fact that oceanic waves move structures makes comfortable stay in open ocean only feasible for structures and platforms in excess of 100m loa and 40m beam -  there is only one way to stabilize a small living space in open ocean to "permanent housing comfort grade" - submerge it like Ben Franklin.

Once you achive housing comfort in the open sea - the need to stay in the marina that ties all small yachts- is gone.

A real worldwide nomadic lifestyle can be created.



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Worldwide oceanic traveling  - just like a whale - is born as human lifestyle - featuring indedpendence - featuring comfort - and featuring "off the grid livestyle" as far as it can go.

It is affordable compared to other solutions (business jets, mega yachts) energy efficient (factor 5 less energy need than a surface yacht) - breaking free of anybodies "jurisdiction", "government", and "travel restrictions".

Oceanic global mobility for worldwide key players - in nature and in business... business centers always can be approached from the sea on our blue planet.

Other than a business jet, or a yacht that need to fit into existing "installations" (runways, marinas etc) The submarine yacht can stay a mile out at sea - still provide comfort (other than a yacht).

This opens a window for a live aboard vessel of enormous size and draft, as big as a building, with no size limits at all - tubular concrete structures with a diameter of 24m have already been built and performed for decades maintenance free at sea - as we speak. (TrollA)

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A submarine tunnel concrete shell tubular structure. / Rion Antriron bridge pylon 70m diameter. Oceanic concrete shells are prooven off the shelf technology. We took it a step further and made working submarines out of it.

 



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Capain Nemos Motto - predicted that kind of lifestyle ... "moving amidst mobility", "moving within the moving element", or "changing in the changes"

Mobility as main factor in the quest for freedom. Jules Verne was a visionary after all...

What can save you from collapsing markets, social revolutions, scantling state ruling, in a unstable world - the ability to move out, and take care of your business somewhere else, where nobody can interfere - mobilis in mobili...



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To get a closer view how Captain Nemo as a aquaculture pro would live and work, see Neil Sims and ocean cage real world testing.

Neil Sims presenting a productivity  for a drifting cage that outranks traditional aquaculture.

He also presents the downside of using a surface ship " the oceans incredible capacity to break things".

Finally he presents a thought for a possible solution: Run the operation completly submerged and "out of reach of the ocean waves" like a "space station".

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Let me propose the "captain nemo float out" it is basicly building a "better yacht" that can stay in open ocean for long periods of time.

Yachts can not stay in open ocean for long periods of time as the wave action makes staying there quite uncomfortable.

Yachts are also built from materials that impose "light building" as principal design feature. This goes bad with basic seasteading needs like big tank volumes and store of big amounts of goods like food, spare parts, tools, fuel, water and similar.

In general a yacht is built for living in a marina and make short trips of no more than a few days crossing open water in favorable weather conditions.

We propose (and already tested) a vehicle that is the technical equivlent of a whale. A very heavy almost completly submerged body wandering worldwide at a speed of 7 knots with incredible low energy needs, capeable to live on resouces and opportunities that come up seasonally at thousands of miles distance.

This vehicle would be about "apartment size" hold a adequate living space for a single family be equally comfortable in harbor or at open sea, avoiding wave movements by cruising most of the time in snorkel mode. It would provide "leave coffee cup on the table comfort" even in the worst imaginable sea conditions.

It would be the "workhorse" of a new generation of ocean explorers and settlers who engage in activities like open water pod fishfarming, tuna rearing, wreck salvage, scuba tourism, mineral explotation, scientific data collection, tourism and similar.

This workhorse would be almost completly independent of infrastructure.

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It would allow to have a lifestyle that is somewhere halfway between a yachtie, the moken, and captain nemo. It would allow to paricipate in existing yachting, use existing harbor and boating infrastructure when available. But on the long run it would work best as mobile complement of oceanic cities as proposed by seasteading.

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A 21st Century 'Nautilus'

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'Sea Orbiter' Model: Photo courtesy of SeaOrbiter Project

Part submarine, part research vessel, the 'SeaOrbiter' is currently on view at a Korean expo

It could be an alien spacecraft or a 21st century version of Captain Nemo's Nautilus from Jules Verne "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea," but in fact it's a live-aboard, ocean-going laboratory that could be exploring the seas as soon as late next year, says CNN in a recent news report.

Called the SeaOrbiter , the research vessel is the concept of French architect Jacques Rougerie. Currently the centerpiece of France's pavilion at Expo 2012 in Yeosu, South Korea, it has spent almost 12 years floating around as a mere concept. It recently completed its industrial design phase and construction is slated for October this year.

"All technical issues are resolved, all the modeling is done," says Ariel Fuchs, education and media director of the SeaOrbiter project. "We gathered institutional and industrial support five or six years ago and it's been a real institutional and financial project for the last two years."

It is expected to cost around $43 million and when built, will be 58-meters in height, taller than Nelson's Column, a monument in London. When launched, around 50% of the vessel will be below the water line, allowing for constant underwater study, Fuchs says.

"One of the first users will be the science community," he says. "It's designed to explore the ocean in a new way, mainly spending time under the sea, giving people the opportunity to live under the sea for a very long time, to observe, to undertake research missions, like marine biology, oceanography and climate issues."

http://www.marinelink.com/news/nautilus-century-st345381.aspx

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By Leia Michele Toovey- Exclusive to Gold Investing News With nearly 70 percent of the earth’s surface located underwater; it is no surprise that exploration companies are turning their attention to the bedrock and sediments below the ocean as a potential source of minerals. This so called “marine mining” is not a new undertaking. The first marine exploration and mining took place in the 1960’s and 1970’s when miners excavated manganese nodules from the ocean floor. These nodules provided a good source of nickel, copper and cobalt. Since the start of marine mining, companies have explored for practically every mineral and gemstone imaginable. Currently, 90 percent of the world’s diamonds are mined from the sea off Namibia and South Africa. At the beginning of the current century, in the deep sea, explorers located rocky ore deposits called seafloor massive sulfides, or SMS. These large underground deposits contained massive amounts of copper and gold. This discovery piqued the interest of companies looking to explore the marine environment. With most of the world’s land mass submersed, why has the method of marine mining been slow to gain momentum? Well, there are two main reasons: politics and technological limitations. Before the UN Law of the Sea Conference, there was no agreement as to how much of the continental shelf belonged to a country, and at which point it became international waters. Additionally, the costs of such ventures were extremely high in the 1960′s and 1970′s, when the technology was first developed. Now, with ownership questions settled, a great improvement in technology, and sky-high commodities prices, marine exploration is heating up. Marine Gold Mining Gold is found in the ocean floor in both solid rock, and as a part of sediment. When rivers meet the ocean, they deposit all the material that they have collected, and carried through their journey across the continent. In addition, gold and other minerals that are found in the ocean could have, in the past, actually been deposited in a terrestrial environment. The ocean level has not been stable over the earth’s history and has adjusted according to changes in climate, and glaciation. Offshore submerged beaches can contain large amounts of gold, and other minerals such as titanium, zirconium, rare earths, tin and diamonds. Seafloor Massive Sulfide Deposits Located 1-2km under water, SMS deposits appear like giant rock formations about 200m long and wide, and tens of meters thick. The deposits are found in underwater volcanic areas, and are created by hydrothermal plumes. When seawater seeps through the porous seabed, the water is heated and is then spurted back up into the ocean through the black smokers. The fluids emitted by these deep-sea vents are rich in metals and high in temperature. When the fluids hit the near-freezing water, the metals precipitate and form chimneys around the plumes. Over time, these chimneys collapse and form the polymetallic sulfide deposits that can be mined today. These deposits are an excellent source of copper and gold, as well as zinc, lead, silver and sulfur. The technology behind SMS exploration and mining has benefited from advances in underwater drilling for oil and gas. A lot of the technology used for SMS mining is based on existing equipment used in the oil and gas sector, with some overlap with marine dredging and offshore diamond mining methods. The key equipment, borrowed from offshore oil and gas, relates to seafloor trenching, where remotely operated vehicles (ROVs) are used to excavate the seafloor for laying oil and gas pipelines. In SMS mining, similar ROVs are used to cut and lift sections of the deposit, which are then vacuumed and pumped up a flexible pipeline to the vessel at the surface. The only difference in the technology requirements is that while ROVs used for oil and gas pipeline trenches only need to function at depths of less than 500m, ROVs used for SMS mining need to work at 1,500m depths or more. It will take some more advances before SMS mining will come to the forefront, however, preliminary economic assessments indicated that commercial SMS mining ventures have the potential to be very lucrative. Depending on the concentration of minerals, SMS deposits have a value of US$500-$2,000 per tonne, with operating costs per tonne estimated at US$145-US$162. As the prices of gold and copper skyrocket, the value of these deposits increases as well. As land based deposits are exhausted, there is even more incentive to explore SMS marine mining. Diamonds Marine diamond mining has only been viable since the 1990’s. Marine diamond mining employs both “vertical” and “horizontal” techniques to extract diamonds from offshore placer deposits. Vertical marine mining uses a 6 to 7 meter diameter drill head to cut into the seabed and suck up the diamond bearing material from the sea bed. Horizontal mining employs the use of Seabed Crawlers (remotely controlled, CAT-tracked underwater mining vehicles) that move across the sea floor pumping gravel up to an offshore vessel. DeBeers is at the forefront of marine diamond mining, with the majority of their diamonds mined from the sea. Some analysts predict that the total value of offshore diamonds in southern Africa (extending into very deep waters) may exceed US$1 trillion. http://goldinvestingnews.com/investing-in-gold/marine-mining

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This Week in Diving History -- July 14, 1969 -- BEN FRANKLIN (PX-15) begins gulf stream drift diving mission. This Week in Diving History -- July 14, 1969 -- BEN FRANKLIN (PX-15) begins gulf stream drift diving mission. July 14, 1969 8:56 P.M. -- The Ben Franklin (PX-15) subsurface research vessel left surface off Palm Beach, Florida on a 30-day drift mission in the Gulf Stream with a crew of six. Its final destination would be 1500 miles north off of Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. The vessel was named in honor of Benjamin Franklin who recognized, publicized and named the current "The Gulf Stream" in 1770. Its Mission: to investigate the secrets of the Gulf Stream as it drifted northward at depths of 600-2,000 feet; to learn the effects on man of a long-duration, closed-environment stressful voyage; to demonstrate the engineering-operational concepts of long term submersible operation; and to conduct other scientific oceanographic studies. This mission would be the longest privately-sponsored undersea experiment of its kind. It ended more than 30-days (and 1,444 nautical miles) later, when the Franklin and its crew of six surfaced some 300 miles south of Halifax, Nova Scotia on August 14, 1969 at 7:58 A.M. This was and remains an unparalleled feat -- no other mesoscaph has gone for a more extended or deep drift type mission. All that being said; here is why many have likely never heard of it. The Ben Franklin was greatly overshadowed by the Apollo 11 man on the moon mission that was launched only two days into the Franklins historic mission. Ben Franklin made a few more dives after 1969, including the first deep-sea dive for Dr. Robert Ballard, the discoverer of the wreck of the Titanic. Dr. Ballard said he has fond memories of the Franklin, as its large size and comfortable bunks gave him his best "sleep in the deep." Usually, submersibles are small, cramped and you spend hours in contortions with cold water from condensation dripping on you. Recently, the Ben Franklin was overhauled and preserved to be displayed at its final resting place where it proudly sits at the Vancouver Maritime Museum. The following is an excerpt from the documentary "From Sea to Shining Sea" narrated by Walter Conkrite; regarding the Ben Franklin and its place in history: "Timing is everything. In the summer of 1969, within one day of each other, two courageous crews set out to explore new frontiers. Both were missions of pure discovery. One would go to the Sea of Tranquility, the other to the massive eastern boundary current known as the Gulf Stream. One would completely obliterate the other in the world's awareness. For eight days in July, the world looked skyward, transfixed, as Apollo 11, with three astronauts aboard, rocketed to the Moon. No one noticed the launch of PX-15. Manned by six brave aquanauts, the mission of PX-15, in the mesoscaph Ben Franklin, endured a perilous 30 day, 1400 mile drift-dive deep in the Gulf Stream. Though regarded as an analogue to prolonged missions in space, it was little remarked and all but forgotten at the time. The achievements of Apollo 11 have since become a celebrated event in human history; the astronauts are American heroes. The achievements of PX-15 and her crew were never noticed, and remain in oblivion. While the world looked up toward the Moon as the Eagle tracked over the rugged terrain of the Moon and landed, the 50' Ben Franklin was drifting at 1200 feet, 40 feet off the bottom of the Continental Shelf, taking stereoscopic pictures of equally rugged terrain. While the astronauts walked and worked on the Moon nearly 240,000 miles away, the aquanauts carried out their mission under crushing pressures between 800 and 2000 feet deep in the ocean. The danger to both missions and both crews was extreme, with little margin for error and very little hope of recovery in the event of an accident or emergency. Yet, one returned to the accolades of an adoring world, while the other returned to the notice of almost no one. The coincidence of the Apollo 11 moon mission and the Ben Franklin Gulf Stream Mission in 1969 is a strange and rare historical event, one that involves two of my favorite subjects - space and ocean exploration." - Walter Conkrite Within a few years, the frontiers explored by Apollo 11 and PX-15 were abandoned and a golden age of human exploration came to an end. Sending something into the unknown has now largely replaced sending someone. As you hear about the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing, keep in mind the contributions of the Ben Franklin.

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It is possibe to build the nautilus and create a working yacht on base of that layout. It would not be very streamline efficient due to the crests and the "nemo eye" but still a viable shape for a submarine yacht.

Nautilus was 70m loa and 8m beam (according to Jules Vernes novel) .



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The deck and the dinghy storage solution of the film version are a quite realistic setup for a submarine yacht.



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The diver lockout scene from the film -  doable and realistic for a submarine yacht. Salvage and Aquaculture as Captain Nemo's dayjob - also a quite realistic setup...

Sealab -  a submerged living space bubble (in this case not very mobile) as habitat for divers with a underwater lockout.



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A submarine yacht is immune to pirate attacks in small boats. To create a "viable danger scene" in the film, Captain Nemo had to let open the hatch so that the attackers could come down the stairway...

When the hatch is closed nobody can access the interior of a submarine . Nor break into the thick hull with any reasonable means.



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The Nautilus is the fictional submarine featured in Jules Verne's novels: "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea" (1870) and "The Mysterious Island" (1874). Verne named the Nautilus after Robert Fulton's real-life submarine "Nautilus" (1800). Three years before writing his novel, Jules Verne also studied a model of the newly developed French Navy submarine "Plongeur" at the 1867 Exposition Universelle, which inspired him for his definition of the "Nautilus".

The Nautilus is described by Verne as "a masterpiece containing masterpieces." It is designed and commanded by Captain Nemo. Electricity provided by sodium/mercury batteries (with the sodium provided by extraction from seawater) is the craft's primary power source for propulsion and other services.

The Nautilus is double hulled, and is further separated into Water-tight Compartments. Its top speed is 50 knots. Its displacement is 1,356.48 French freight tons immerged (1,507 submerged).

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The interior design of a modern nautilus would be the same as a business jet.  Submarine yachts and business jets are both "tubular pressurized structures with built in housing comfort". The good news is that a submarine yacht is by far more economic to own and absolutly "grid independent".

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The interior design of a submarine yacht is similar to a modern business jet.

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Model of the 'Nautilus' by Harper Goff used in '20,000 Leagues Under The Sea' (Fleischer 1954)
Just recently we heard that the mash still is safe and sound at the Smithsonian—now there’s even more comforting news. The original model of Captain Nemo’s submarine ‘Nautilus’ designed by Harper Goff and used in 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea by Richard Fleischer (1954) is kept intact at the Disney Archives.



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Get a foothold in ocean colonization:

 

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t49529137/oceanic-frontier-develpment-investment-foothold-in-ocean-col/

 

The Captain Nemo Lifestyle:

 

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t43942461/the-captain-nemo-float-out-seasteading/

 

Why oceanic business is the next big thing to come:

 

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t56680633/the-reasons-why-oceanic-business-is-the-next-big-thing-to-co/

 

Ocean sphere fish farming:

 

http://concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t55433095/ocean-sphere-the-next-wave-of-sustainable-fish-farming/

 

Ocean colonization gallery:

 

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Further and Deeper -- Developing Technology for Next-Generation Mariculture

In order to keep pace with growing global demand for seafood, marine aquaculture will have to expand. The vast majority of mariculture is conducted in protected embayments and estuaries, where farm effluent accumulation and interactions with wild stocks can cause environmental disruptions. To produce marine fish on the scale required by global demand, there is only one real solution: mariculture must move further offshore, into the deeper waters of the open oceans. Here, the tremendous assimilative capability of the sea is in full effect, potentially allowing a responsible mariculture operation to produce delicous, healthy fish with virtually no negative impacts to the ocean environment.

With the Velella Project, Kampachi Farms and its partners are taking the lead in the development of technologies to support true open-ocean mariculture.

 

Named for a genus of small drifting pelagic hydrozoan, the Velella Project is the world's first "beta-test" of an unanchored free-drifting oceanic fish culture system. The Velella array consists of a 132 cubic meter brass-netted Aquapod® net pen produced by Ocean Farm Technologies, of Maine attached by a combined towing/umbilical line to the 65-foot staysail schooner S/V Machias, which serves as the farm tender, dive platform, crew quarters, and operations center. By drifting on the ocean currents in waters two to three miles deep, the Velella is essentially "perpetually fallow", with no direct connection between the seafloor and the farm. No build up of effluent, no impact to wild stocks -- just clean fish growing in clean water.

In May 2011, the Velella was deployed from the harbor at Kawahihae, Hawaii into the open ocean West of Hawaii Island. In July 2011, the Velella was stocked with around 2,000 Kampachi fingerlings. These fish, the first ever raised in a drifting pelagic farm, accheived outstanding health and growth performance, reaching the usual harvest size by December, 2011. Roughly half of the fish were harvested to reduce the density inside the cage, and the remainder were harvested in mid-February 2012.

 


In addition to proving the feasibility of farming fish in the pelagic environment, the Velella has been used by Kampachi Farms and project partner Lockheed-Martin as a test platform for various supporting technologies. Ranging from automated feeder systems and robotic cage cleaners to satellite communications, these are the innovations that will be necessary make commercial-scale open ocean farming a reality. The next phase of Velella research will focus on replicating the outstanding biolgocial results of the drifter trial while using a single point mooring (SPM) system to facilitate the further development of automation and remote control technologies. By building on this sucessful research, and pioneering the permitting pathway for such operations with U.S. government agencies, Kampachi Farms will lead the push of next generation mariculture over the blue horizon.



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During the cold war USS Halibut was equipped with a FISH that was deployed on a Cable from a streamlined fairing on deck of the submarine - Halibut found and photographed a sunken Soviet submarine in a secrete mission ...

It is obvious that the combination ROV / submarine platform has great advantages compared to surface ship based salvage missions. Submarine deployment is weather independet while surface missions frequently loose 90% of the expediton time to bad weather and cable spooling.

The technology of deploying ROVs from a submarine was later refined by James Cameron on the Titanic. Where he deployed ROVs from small subs like MIR and Alvin.

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