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Here is basic info and photos/videos about Rincon del Mar in Colombia. Rincon is located at:     9.767607,-75.641836  a small village grown in the last years from a fishing outpost to some touristic activity.

 

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A house built on Coral in Mucura San Bernardo Islands Colombia - a floating house would be a far better solution.





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. Photos Rincon / Arenaqua and surroundings

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rincon del mar images - market, mainstreet

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... there is need for development - industrial and touristic - so one business plan could be build floating platforms in that zone and sell them off as floating docks, and ship repair platforms for the bay of cartagena and its shipyard zone mammonal along the lines of (valliant yetti) - another would be a tourism platform along the lines of quicksilver for the coral zone of the san bernardo achipelago, another fishing platforms and aquaculture units for the people of islote, i was also thinking in floating bungalows for expanding the decamaron project, or in underwater rooms for tourism. Finally a big fancy floating international marina for yachts from all over the caribbean to pass trough the hurricane period outside the hurricane zone.

The good thing of this place is that it is at the moment where underdevelopment is still a leading factor, but the first fancy hotels and superyachts have already put their nose into the zone - so you can still have a big chunck of uncompeted beach for a seastead floating right - but you can already develop business when the seastead develops.

...What we would build first is just a floating platform which will allow a small pioneering team to stay and de facto live in the zone. From this platform we would build more platforms for sales purpose or to expand the project - depends what turns out to be more feasible.

I already mentioned that if i had a dozend of such platforms for sale right now i could sell them all in a 2 hour tow area. If i had a mero guasa breeding facility i could sell tons of product in the hotel sector.

If i had a floating tourist attraction of any kind (scuba - underwater windows - shark feeding - beerstead) it would work just fine and economic feasible - right now the main trourism magnet is the oceanarium.

Colombia is nr 3 latin american economic power - Brazil, Mexico, Colombia. And best performer under all latin american economies. What i do for a living when i do not build submarines, or chat at TSI is advise european companies how to open subsidiaries in Colombia...




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Rincon is in the hurricane free zone of the caribbean.

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santa cruz del islote colombia san bernardo - most densest populated spot on earth

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I am assuming a minimum funding level of 5K per month.

Used houseboats would be great as a way to start while building something more permanent, but it already seems clear that the lack of seaworthiness which also translates into the high cost of transporting them to Rincon or even Belize eliminates the savings on the initial purchase price.

Seasteading in the US is a dead end, with an interference factor of 0 to 1, maybe at best a 2 in the Florida Keys for anything other than tourism. The environmentalists and commercial fishing industry are already mounting an organized attack against open ocean aquaculture and have successfuly interfered with a project in Hawaii.

With the low labor costs in Rincon or Belize, it should be possible to custom build very nice floating bungalows and ocean window units. An advantage of Rincon over Belize is a lot of the materials and supplies are easily available in Cartagena. I know from a coworker from Belize that many things taken for granted in the US are either in short supply or very expensive. When going back to visit family from the US to Belize, he would buy a pickup truck with a blown engine, repair, fill it and a trailer with supplies and equipment his relatives and others needed, and drive it to Belize to leave it, truck, trailer, and everything else with it, and fly back. He more than paid for the trip this way.

I agree with Wil's approach of building a floating housing unit for a seasteading crew to start out in. It can a dormer with common areas for meals, bathing, toilets, and lounge. The beds could be private sleeping chanbers, 4'x8'x4' with a twin size reclining mattress, LCD monitor, audio system, and 1'6"x4'x4' storage area, the other 6" is the bulkhead wall separating the chambers at the foot of the beds. These can be stacked 2 high with closing pull down or sliding doors (dimensions can be modified to optimize for metric building materials). This design achieves a high occupancy while allowing privacy. The sleeping comparments, baths and toilets can be down in the floatation and the lounge, galley, and dining topside, or have everything below with a clear top deck for open space and outdoor activity. An alternate design, or later version could have private dorm rooms, 6'x6'x8', with loft bed, seating or desk under bed, and sink. Larger more luxurious units would follow, so settlers can progress from the sleeping chambers to dorm rooms to larger units as they work and earn money in the community, as the community and its businesses themselves grow.

It needs to be determined, is it more cost effective to build the entire unit out of concrete or build it as a structure on top of a catamaran float with 3' wide decks around the housing structure. I originally conceived of this using shipping containers on cement floats, but maybe it is better to just build it as an integrated floating structure finished inside. Shipping containers are available in 10' widths which are more efficient than 8' and may be available as oddball used surplus. Also, depending on balance of trade, Cartagena may not even have used containers available - they seem to be piling up in the US ports these days.

The advantage of custom building from concrete is the dimensions can be more optimized. The length of the units would be about 50' and joined to form a grid of aquaculture pens and/or floating marina. It may be better to use free floating pens and just have a marina, or square pens supported by booms on three sides and connected in a row along a long dock.

Shredder, if you feel inclined, please sketch up something. It is actually pretty similar to your bergstead, but longer and maybe no walls to be able to use the tops as docks and open space. I plan to throw up some basic CAD designs as well.

Wil, do you have a source for cost figures for labor, materials, and furnishings in Colombia to build the above mentioned designs. Also, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the better way to go on the initial design, cost comparison, catamaran bungalow or all cement.



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I am assuming a minimum funding level of 5K per month....it should be possible to custom build very nice floating bungalows and ocean window units. ... materials and supplies....more cost effective to build the entire unit out of concrete .....catamaran float .....shipping containers on cement floats..... do you have a source for cost figures for labor, materials... thoughts on the better way to go on the initial design... cost comparison...

doty - that was a content rich post - could make a forum about every single point - so let me start with the global view and then go into details...the reason why i came up with Rincon (as option not as obligated point) was that i see chances to start a float out project that can benefit from industrial, touristic, aquaculture, without narrow it necessaryly down from the very beginning to just one option.

As i said if we build just a floating concrete platform - industry in mammonal (shipyard zone ) will love it for use as tool platform for afloat ship repair - and place a couple of orders, the hotelery segment will inmediatly imagine a bar kiosc with palm roof on it and want one for the decamaron island project. A floating mero guasa breeding project will see it as platform to expand aquaculture out of the fenced shallow zones. Marina developers will want it for floating marina boxes.

So if we establish ourselfs as the "floating platform guys" we have business to do with a lot of different sectors all present in a 2 hour tow radius of the building site.


The point is if we build something the very start up piece should make a compelling case for seasteading and a show piece how to do it and what we are talking about and why this is business relevant.

A "goofy bottle island" or a "old houseboat accumulation" fail to create this effect - and we need this effect to step up and get support for  later project phases.

So i would start for strategic reasons with something universal useable like this:

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you can build your own beachhouse on it that blends into the zone - could look like this when done.

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You would basicly figure out how to build floating platforms modular, easy, economic, and start to use it for yourself - and sell them off as business in the zone to sustain yourself.

I can organize concrete building in that zone at a global cost of USD 166/ton of displacement - tested that in pilot projects.

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Catamaran, plate, modular honeycomb - all fits into that global picture - concrete building per ton of floating structure - shape is secondary matter - what is important is having something afloat that lasts 200 years of service life - so has real estate quality and show feasibility quality.

With a 5k/month funding level we can build 30 tons floating structure per month in a 2 worker setup. This means you can build something that makes people talk and invest in your project within a couple of months.

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A two part questions/comments.

PART 1.

Let's say we build a ferro floating platform (like in the first picture shown above, EDIT-not the sub,lol, the "next above") in Columbia for $5000/mo and X amount of dollars. Where is this built? In Rincon?

All I see there on the map is a small town with no name and one main dirt road and shanty looking buildings, surrounded by bush, nothing else. No marina, no docks, NO NADA. Is there electric? (excuse my ignorance, but I don't see any power polls on Google Earth) With other words, I don't see any infrastructure in that little village to support boatbuilding. In fact, I don't see any infrastructure to support anything else but fishing, to be honest. Therefore, money have to be invested to buy/rent/build this infrastructure = extra expense. Unless I got it all wrong, and this platform is built somewhere else in Columbia and then towed and anchored to Rincon.

But lets say you got that platform to Rincon. Now what? How is that bare hull making money IN RINCON, 60 nm S of Cartagena, in the middle of nowhere?

I am not "bashing" Rincon, guys, just stating the facts and asking the questions that ANY potential investor would ask.

And since I was on Google Earth, what's wrong with the Baru area? I see a nice small uninhabited (?) island there, surrounded by crystal clear waters, 1 nm E of the SE tip of that Baru peninsula (?), about 12 nm SE of Cartagena. Or, in general, around that whole area, Corales del Rosrio National Park? To me, it looks much, much promising in terms of turning a profit than Rincon.

PART 2.

Let's not be in a rush to dismiss houseboats as a source of revenue for any "close to shore" seasteading venture. I know very well how much it takes to turn a bare hull, or a ferro floating platform in a livable floating space, in terms of dollar amount. No matter where, Florida, Belize or Columbia. It will cost at least 3-4 times more (aywhere) to built from scratch rather than buying decent used houseboats and ship them there (shipping included). And if you can't provide for living accomodation on those platform you got nothing. What else you gonna sell it for, "as is"?


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part 1

the relative remoteness is not a drawback i see it as a benefit as it gives you high score on the interference freedom scale. So without entering in a spot versus discussion i would insist in remote caribbean sites as first joice  - i would also insist in avoid tourism hot spots, industrial hot spots, so my ideal zone would be quite remote but  near ( 1- 2 hours in boat) to as well tourism hot zones and industrial hot zones to keep opportunities in both fields open.

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In no way i would rule out houseboats - i just would say that a houseboat  accumulation of of the shelf housboats  - and nothing else - due to budget shortfall - is proving nothing so not really worth doing it.  Houseboat is fine to live in while building something that attracts investors because it goes beyond houseboats.

One of the most important factors to avoid interference is to blend into a zone - if you check the material i put here to give a realistic impression of the rincon zone - you will understand that of the shelf houseboats do not blend in very well.  It would be smarter to have platforms put traditional palmroof huts on them and live just as natives and tourist live in the zone already.  If you blend in the chances that you get interference are minimum.  Nobody will make a case against you because you replace traditional landfill and stilts (which have a eco impact) with much smarter and environment friendly floating bases.

A tipical settlement in the zone right now looks like that: - a concrete floating platform with a palm hut on it will just look NO DIFFERENT but avoid eco destroying landfills in coral areas.

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 The people who built this are infringing atl least 3 laws - you can not build in a zone of 30 m of the waterline , you can not make any changes to the litoral (landfill) you can not cut a single mangrove bush.

The fact that those buildings are still there shows how bendable things are in colombia. Many people just think that this is nice after all - so it gets tolerated. If the houses would be ugly and full of a hippie community they would have got problems.

I could sell platforms to the (wealthy owners) of such existing settlements as it would allow to still live in the zone and have a de facto house there without building a fixed fundament in the beach zone, cut no mangrove bush, so still stay inside the existing law.

What you seek is the right mix of business opportuity, bendability, interference freedom, and tolerance culture, so that your project can prosper - a good advise is blend in do as the romans do - avoid to create a "strange appearance that triggers counter reactions".

Be part of a desireable development instead of being part of a style breach.

 

 

 



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Wil's post above explains why I don't see much of a need to continue looking for a location. I don't see any anything else comparable in the Carribean without going to a tourism hot zone, a very remote area from significant commerical activiy, or the US coast.

Until Ron Paul and like people are elected to power in the US, or there is a crash and free market reboot of the economy and governent, I do not consider it to be a viable location for investment - it will continue to decline and in the process become increasingly more authoritarian with one desparate measure after another to prop up the failed Keysian model and its elitist proponents of a centrally planned economiy.

Panama has Boca del Tora, very nice along the Carribean Coast, but last I heard in the late 90's, it had already been bought up and prices inflated by real estate developers. Maybe the bubble has burst there by now and it is available again at low cost like Belize.

Belize is quite viable and with 40% unemployment, may be very flexible in accomodating new development, but does not have the kind of broad based economy to provide a local market for business that Cartagena has.

Costa Rica has Limon Real on the Carribean side, which did have a libertarian development project for a free trade zone at one time. The fact that the libertarian party in Costa Rica, Moviamento Libertaridad, gained a sizable portion of parliament in elections show there is a lot of intelligent life there. The islands also lack a broad based local economy.

The other choice I see to Rincon is that town to the south of Rincon on the Bay on the other side of the penisula, Google Maps does not give a name for it, it is in the aerial images linked to in my previous post. Rincon is closer by sea route, but the other town has protected bay anchorage off shore.

Wil and I are very much on the same page regarding building to blend in and complement the existing architecture. This also reduces costs by building in a manner which local tradesmen are familiar with and local materials are available for. The picture above represents a design which would be very attractive on a tourism site. It looks like bungalows on floats it is. The floats can have submerged rooms with underwater views as well.

At this point we need to settle on a multi purpose float design and cost it out. Wil, can you give me a figures for $/cubic meter of finished ferrocement, exterior wall thickness, interior (cell) wall thickness, floor thickness, ceiling (deck) thickness, cell size. It would be best to put together a parametric spread sheet, i.e. float depth, cell size as variables, exterior wall thickness, interior wall thickness, floor thickness, ceiling thickness as calculated values. With this, I can lay out designs in a parametric CAD modeler (I'm a mechanical engineer with 25 years CAD design experience). Also, we should separate out the fixed costs, i.e. administrative salaries, equipment, rentals, from the variable costs, i.e. concrete, steel, water, labor, other materials, and delivery costs to customer or local anchorage. We also need to determine the sale prices to the local markets you described for the floats. A fixed price per ton of displacement or floatation isn't really detailed enough seeing as for a roughly cubic or cylinderical configuration, cost should increase by the square while enclosed volume increases by the cube, so cost per cubic meter of volume or ton of displacement should decrease linearly with an increase in size.

We probably need new threads for cement float design and cost., economic needs for Rincon (what can we provide them that they need), marketing to Cartagena and the tourism zones, issues to be identified and addressed.


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At first glance, it looked like there was plenty of cheap land in the area, but on closer examination, Jason may have a good point. Rincon appears to be very densely built, like it is actually hemmed in by the mangrove swamps and other factors, so building floating real estate could have a lot of value even to the local community.


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At this point

It seems to me that we are no longer talking about an outpost venture, but a ferrocement floats construction business.

You are going to build ferro floats and sell them, either as they are, bare, as floating foundation for the locals to build houses on them, or to local marine or hospitality businesses for their various water related activities, or custom finished according to the client specs, whatever they want, you will build on them. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

Which is ok by me if this is what you guys decided to do. But I imagined the whole seasteading outpost venture a bit differently than what you guys seem to have in mind.


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Found this thread via Google Alerts on "seasteading".

Just wanted to reply to US seasteading being a "dead end". Maybe so, but there is a shipstead in the works - http://blueseed.co



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Praveen, the emphasis of seasteading.org and Patri Friedman is most of all raise awareness for seasteading - not actually do real world projects. Like you i will follow blueseed and see what they get on track...

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Wil, can you provide the following information so I can develop a business plan for Rincon? I've consolidated from a couple of other posts.:

At a basic level, what valuation shall we place on the platforms deliverable to the buyers. If we use $166/ton of discplacement as the building cost, what will be the final sale price to the buyer, and how long should we allow for the sale to complete? Also, is that a metric ton or imperial ton, 1000 kg or 2000 pounds. Also, what is the density of the concrete, interior and exterior wall thicknesses, floor thickness, deck thickness, and span between interior wall or bulkheads.

At this point we need to settle on a multi purpose float design and cost it out. Wil, can you give me a figures for $/cubic meter of finished ferrocement, exterior wall thickness, interior (cell) wall thickness, floor thickness, ceiling (deck) thickness, cell size. It would be best to put together a parametric spread sheet, i.e. float depth, cell size as variables, exterior wall thickness, interior wall thickness, floor thickness, ceiling thickness as calculated values. With this, I can lay out designs in a parametric CAD modeler. Also, we should separate out the fixed costs, i.e. administrative salaries, equipment, rentals, from the variable costs, i.e. concrete, steel, water, labor, other materials, and delivery costs to customer or local anchorage. We also need to determine the sale prices to the local markets you described for the floats. A fixed price per ton of displacement or floatation isn't really detailed enough seeing as for a roughly cubic or cylinderical configuration, cost should increase by the square while enclosed volume increases by the cube, so cost per cubic meter of volume or ton of displacement should decrease with an increase in size, though there will be some increase in wall thickness ofr larger enclosed volumes.

 

 

Let me first say that Numbers should never been written based on imagination but should emerge from the real construction situation of a real world pilot project.  You must also have clear that numbers depend a lot of the phase a project is in.

In the starting phase you burn the budget exclusivly for finding a place,  make it adequate,  get tools, protect it against third party interference, etc... in this phase the production is cero and crunching the numbers is of no value as the numbers don't give you a decision base of anything the processes to run in this early phase are arbitrary random depending on the unique specifics of the building site you just have to do what needs to be done to get production up and anything costs money.

Crunching numbers starts to make sense when the project enters into a stable production phase. I would not talk about a "stable production phase" until you have some 20m of floating structure in the water so you can speak about a "seasteading project in the saddle".

Now let's talk about the kind of "minimum engine" you need behind a "seasteading project in the saddle"  - you can not make a worksite smaller than 1 worker working. In practice you need 2 workers that can assist each other, and a watchman keeping the site safe and the tools from disappearing at night. So you start with paying about 3 salaries. Anything less is a mess.

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Such minimum building sites can look the way as shown in the pictures above - a shadow roof, 2 workers, a basic production - can be a 200 ton sub or can be a series production of cubes for a modular platform.

In any case the set up and running of the building site will cost about the same. 2-3 worker building sites have a kind of fixed cost of operation that is basicly driven by the labor material and asociated costs which can be VERY different from country to country.

So when i talk about cost per cubic meter i talk about setting up that kind of building site, operate it and cranking out product under the conditions of Colombia in a building site where people are treated well and no social dumping is happening.

Running such a site costs about 166 USD/day - and once established a "workflow" you can expect to crank out 1 ton of structure dayly.

It does matter very little what you build can be cubes rafted up, can be a catamaran float element, can be a plate seastead,

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Running a basic building site in Colombia always will cook down to something like 166 USD/day in pure base cost of function.

In ideal conditions (stable work flow, no third party interference) this site once established can crank out a ton per day.

But this figure includes the presence of a site manager who knows to motivate the people properly and keep the workflow up.

As we all know if you cut out this factor people will just sit in the shadow and crank out nothing...also this production will not happen in the start up phase, not on days of tropical rainfall, not on days when authority and yard management interfers...etc.etc...

So a realistic figure that includes all those factors for a build of a real world construction of 200 tons will be 93.000 USD -

We actually promised a construcction in that budget and we did it in that budget. That would be 480USD per ton of construcction.

Brought to life in a real world project in Colombia.

Those are the numbers to crunch and they are realistic numbers.

You could assign those numbers to a project phase A (starting phase) where you establish a project at a rough cost of USD 480 per ton while you hammer it out until you have a 20m object in the water and with it a seasteading project in the saddle.

And then a project phase B where you have overcome most obstacles and work in a constant workflow on a 20m modular growing building site costs dropping down to some 166 USD/Ton.

For doing a spreadsheet you need to take those cornerstones and fill in all the detailed number crunching that a investor will want to see between them in reasonable proportions.

Keep the material costs realistic (a 50 kilo sack of cement in Cartagena is 22.000 pesos) a rebar 6m is 20.000.

Worker minimum wages 514.000 Pesos.

You can size up building sites just multiplicating the basic worksite figure.

You can estimate a building time from the volume of the build and the number of workers working on it.

All scales linear - as you need the same effort for each ton - no matter how big or small the build is.

Figures only will change if you start to put in mayor effort savers like concrete pumps, premix factory ships, etc. - which you will certainly not in a start up phase.

The wall thickness for honeycomb structures is 5 cm (all walls) - cell size is 1m.

We have experimented also with increasing cell size to 2m - seems to work well

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Monolithic structures like domes, blimps, spheres, and other shells, should be calculated as one cell where the wall thickness is 1/20 of the structure size.

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Yes, what I'm getting at is to determine an ideal balance of manager and workers since this is a labor intensive project in the startup phase. It may be better to have one manager with 4 to 10 workers to build much faster and reduce overhead as a percentage of production cost.

Now we just need a final sale price per ton of displacement to project profit and loss. I'm assuming we will build at Rincon and sell locally per your suggestions.

It would also be nice if we could get the honeycomb cell size up to 3 meter cubes so they can be used as rooms.

Finally, what is the density of your concrete/ferro mixture?



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factor 4 production cost / sales price


Management - it works well on a colombian building site to have 1 manager overseeing and handling a maximum of 12 workers.

What concerns sales price a squaremeter of working barge in honeycomb structure here in Cartagena is sold at 1920 USD so there is a Factor 4 between our production cost (in the less favorable A phase) and the general actual barge sales value in the zone.

We could argue that our barges have 200 years of maintenance free service life and a steel barge only lives for 2 years maintenance free in tropical salt water conditions. So the "value in service days" of a concrete barge would be a hundred times higher. But we do not know if the buyer market would follow such agruments and actually buy and pay them until we do actual sales.

So i think it is a prudent approach to target a sales price equal to a steel barge which leaves us with a factor 4 between production cost and retail sales price. That seems to be a comfortable space considering that production cost,once we reach B phase still can go down due to a efficiency increases in the production.

Base for the squaremeter barge calculation is a honeycomb with 1m cells and 5cm walls a squaremeter deck space would require about a ton of material to build and can be done in one day. Tweaking the cell size as you suggested we still have considerable potential for cost reduction - but it seems prudent not to take the concept to the limits in the basic business plan calculations. Tweaking the cell size has structural and constructive limits due to proper compartimentalization of the build and rughness of the build in dayly use.

Basicly the bigger the float becomes the bigger the cells can be.

The building material density is 2,4 and the steel component is 1/16 in weight.

Means 16 tons of concrete need 1 ton of steel reinforcement, 4-5 tons of cement.

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Basic Concrete Engineering for Builders with CDROM / Design of Concrete Structures / Strength Design for Reinforced - Concrete Hydraulic Structures Engineering Manual on CD / Design of Offshore Concrete Structures / Construction of Marine and Offshore Structures, Second Edition (Civil Engineering - Advisors) / The Dock Manual: Designing/Building/Maintaining / Theory and Design of Concrete Shells / Thin Shell Concrete Structures / design procedures of reinforced concrete shell structures (JGJT 22-98) / Understanding Structures / Concrete Planet: The Strange and Fascinating Story of the World's Most Common Man-made Material / Concrete Construction Manual (Construction Manuals (englisch)) / Large Wind Turbines: Design and Economics / Dynamics of Offshore Structures / Offshore Technology in Civil Engineering / Design of Offshore Concrete Structures / Concrete in the Marine Environment (Modern Concrete Technology) /

Ship-Shaped Offshore Installations: Design, Building, and Operation / Developments in Offshore Engineering: Wave Phenomena and Offshore Topics / Wave Forces on Offshore Structures / Subsea Engineering Handbook / Nonlinear Waves and Offshore Structures (Advanced Series on Ocean Engineering) (Advanced Series on Ocean Engineering) / The Maritime Engineering Reference Book: A Guide to Ship Design, Construction and Operation / Marine Hydrodynamics / Random Seas and Design of Maritime Structures (Ocean Engineering) (Advanced Series on Ocean Engineering) /

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Concrete Floating Structures

Surface Floating Concepts:

The axes of ocean colonization / floating real estate building lots on the water / Plate Seastead - Plate Floating Element for Ocean Colonization / Catamaran Concrete Floating Elements - Base for Ocean Living / Floating Concrete Breakwater Marina / Ocean colonization how to get there / Ramform ship island as ocean base mobile stable scaleable / small honeycomb floating concrete structures in cartagena / Seabreaks for dampening colossal ocean waves / Ocean colonization technology / Ocean colonization company / Oustanding floating concrete structures / ocean colonization general considerations / Interesting projects for ocean colonization / Aquaculture, business, trade, mininig, energy, salvage, making money afloat /

Submerged Concepts:

The captain nemo float out - seasteading / Sub movement finished - Submarine Yacht / Is submarine living space expensive? / concrete pressure vessel / Concrete submarine project / submarine yacht / concrete submarine yacht supporter club / Submerged living space bubble concept basics / Exotic Submerged Bubble Hotel / sea orbiter / Current Turbine Concrete Hull /



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To picture a "seasteading development" you just have to look at those three pictures in the right context. Picture 1 is a floating condeep baseplate building site (concrete). Picture 2 is El Islote a fishermen outpost in the San Bernardo Archipelago - titled the most populated spot on earth and built on a coral rock. Picture 3 is a floating military base (steel plate on a barge).

 



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To picture a "single family floating unit" in a caribbean coral and mangrove lagoon ambient take "Navegante Cholon" - it is not a Yacht, it is a quite normal house built on a floating base. It operates in the lagoon of Cholon - behind the baru peninsula near cartagena.

Can not take a hurricane - but that is not a neccesary design criteria in this "out of hurricane zone" area.

 

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Floating base in concrete, wall thickness 5cm segmented approach, cell size 1m, honeycomb cell structure. Service life 200 years maintenance free. A floating base you can build real estate on that lasts.

A similar base in steel plating would "rust to structural death" and sink within 2 years in a tropical marine ambient. Only a strict grit blasting and repaint shedule can avoid the sinking of a steel plate structure - but how do you take a floating house to a slipway for repaint? - you simply can't fit it into a "boating infrastructure" -  so maintenance free concrete structures - floating for ever immune to rust barnacles and toredo worms are pretty much the only feasible option.

Rust death of a steel honeycomb structure after "falling out of maintenance shedule" in tropical marine ambient. Once repaint shedule stops - the "expected service life left" is months... this is not acceptable for housing and real estate where the "housing space" is expected to last at least 3 human generations.

 



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Get a foothold in ocean colonization:

concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t49529137/oceanic-frontier-develpment-investment-foothold-in-ocean-col/

The Captain Nemo Lifestyle:

concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t43942461/the-captain-nemo-float-out-seasteading/

Why oceanic business is the next big thing to come:

concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t56680633/the-reasons-why-oceanic-business-is-the-next-big-thing-to-co/

Ocean sphere fish farming:

concretesubmarine.activeboard.com/t55433095/ocean-sphere-the-next-wave-of-sustainable-fish-farming/

Ocean colonization gallery:

imulead.com/tolimared/concretesubmarine/picturegallery/concept/

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The big five business fields of ocean colonization: | oceanic transport | oceanic energy | oceanic real estate | deep sea mining | oceanic aquaculture |



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The four fundamental quests of ocean colonization : | The quest for interference freedom | The quest for mobility | The quest for oceanic resources | The quest for space on the planet |



Axes of ocean colonization: | Main Axes | Plate Seastead | Floating Real Estate | Catamaran concept | Captain Nemo Concept | Floating Breakwater Concept | Submerged Living Space Bubble Concept |


/ Lens shell pictures overview / / Ramform floating home pictures / / c-shell floating home pictures / / Floating concrete building methods / / shell cluster pictures / / investor proposal list /



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